VACAVILLE, Dec. 11 — “I am all life that has ever lived, I am the chain as we all are, when we wake up to the Universal Order.”

The speaker: Charles Manson.

He made the comments after being brought handcuffed into a small room, just inside the secured section of the California Medical Facility, where he is serving a life sentence for the 1969 murders of actress Sharon Tate and six others.

“Only a master in the occult would understand me. Only someone that is really up on the thought of spiritualism and judicial prudence would understand me.

“It’s even doubtful the Supreme Court would understand me. Now the Supreme Court of 1950 would understand me, but the Supreme Court has taken a turn. Now, they got women on the Supreme Court and a woman has no business in a judge’s robe,” said the chain-smoking convict during the exclusive interview with the Chico Enterprise-Record.

The supremacy of men and the “resurrection of the father” are central in the philosophical mixture of religion, geo-politics and prison ethics that Manson expounds as the “Universal Order.”

He said this order is being “in one will. In other words we do as we are told by each other, completely and totally without reservations. There is a word for it — unity and harmony.”

However, the mass awareness and setting of the world in order won’t come easily, according to Manson.

“Do you know what it will take to put the world in order? Hitler tried and he had to fight the whole world.”

Manson said the war waged by Hitler really was an effort to save the world.

“Hey man, the German people laid down their lives so we could have peace on this earth. Germans plant trees. They’ll survive because they plant trees. Because Hitler put it on them to plant trees.”

Problems with the environment also have a part in Manson’s philosophy.

“I want that air cleaned up. I want that water cleaned up. I want those animals out of that zoo and I want life back on this planet.

“Sooner or later these things will be done, or you’ll get your heads cut off. Not by me, but by the things that are already in motion,” said Manson.

James Mason of Chillicothe, Ohio, a longtime friend of the convicted killer who claims to be the spokesman for the Universal Order, told the Enterprise-Record that the sect had about 200 “aware followers.”

Manson both confirmed and disagreed with the estimate.

“From his perspective, yeah (200 is correct). From mine there is much more.

“He sees this arm of what I’m doing. I have many arms of what I’m doing.”

Manson erupted into the headlines following the murders of Miss Tate, 26, who was 8 1/2 months pregnant at the time of her death, and four friends on Aug. 8, 1969, in the Benedict Canyon home she shared with her director-husband, Roman Polanski.

Within two days, Los Angeles police found supermarket mogul Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, stabbed and slashed to death in their home.

Eventually, Manson and followers Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkle and Leslie Van Houten were convicted of the murders. Another Manson devotee, Charles “Tex” Watson, was also accused in the killings but was ruled not mentally capable of standing trial.

During the trial that followed, Manson never was accused of taking a physical part in the attacks. However, it was claimed that the people who did wield the knives performed as human robots, doing Manson’s bidding.

“I seen some people that killed some people and I knew they were going to be killed. And I was there before. And I was there after,” admitted Manson to the E-R.

But he denied taking part in the killings, and also denied sending anybody else out to kill.

On Dec. 1, for the fifth time, Manson was considered and rejected for parole by the state Board of Prison Terms.

He refused to even attend the hearing and claims not even to want parole.

“Parole to what? It’s worse outside than it is inside. Who the hell would want to go outside?

“I’d just have to shoot 15 or 20 people in the parking lot.

“If I got outside, I’d have to deal with all your children again. If I got outside I’d have to pick up all your confusion again. That’s what I did last time.”

Parole may not be wanted, but Manson said he has considered another way out of prison — suicide.

“I could do that just as easy as not. But it would be difficult for me to hang myself on the ventilator, because I have so many heads,” said Manson, erupting in a peal of deep-throated laughter.

“I can’t help it. You guys think in one or two heads. See what I’m saying?”

By ROGER AYLWORTH